First Impressions

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First Impressions

Postby Wrannie on 06 Dec 2008, 16:00

Game looks like good fun, played a couple (lost both :P)

2 things:

Game froze on me on several occasions, lines got drawn but I couldn't move. First time I couldn't go on at all, restarted and then it happened again, only this time it would get going normally after some time. My connection seemed alright, not sure if the problem is on my end.

It would be awesome if we could zoom out, as a true woman I'm bad at orientation so a view from above over all cities and troops would be awesome.

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Whats your intention with this beta? I been wasting my time with facebook games lately and there are quite many who'd love a game like that, shall I forward it to them?
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Re: First Impressions

Postby SephiRok on 06 Dec 2008, 16:25

Welcome!

The freeze sounds strange. Your connection shouldn't matter at all – the game is turn-based. It could be something with the client/server code though.

A better explanation in what circumstances it happened would really help though, so we can try to reproduce it and fix it. Perhaps make a screen shot as well (just press PrtScr and it'll make a png in the ScreenShots folder where you installed the game) if it happens to you again.

Zoom out is unlikely to get implemented because the game is in 2D and scaling those graphics would make them look pretty terrible.

This beta is intended to get as much feedback as we can, from as many people as we can. To see how fun it is for people. Forwarding is very appreciated.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby Wrannie on 06 Dec 2008, 17:13

Screenshot wouldn't help cause it would look like yours on the site. Anyway, it didn't happen these last games I played, so maybe was something random.

I won my last games and I love it :P
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Re: First Impressions

Postby Wrannie on 06 Dec 2008, 17:55

Won another tough match XD

Alright I got used to the interface, zoom ain't that needed really..now what I wish for is of course a rating system for bragging rights :D

And observing other games would be cool.

Is that hard to implement?

And I do love this game!
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Re: First Impressions

Postby void on 06 Dec 2008, 18:09

Glad to hear you like the game!

Alliances (so people can team up), a ranking system and spectator mode are planned for the near future.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby Wrannie on 06 Dec 2008, 18:20

LOL you guys edit each others posts? I could swear I saw an answer by Sephirok that got replaced by Void's..or I'm going mental (is also a plausible explanation)

One more suggestion - could it be that a game between 2 good players would go on without an end? Maybe a time limit should be added - set up a timer (if you want that) at the beginning of a match.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby void on 06 Dec 2008, 18:33

Wrannie wrote:LOL you guys edit each others posts? I could swear I saw an answer by Sephirok that got replaced by Void's..or I'm going mental (is also a plausible explanation)

You're not going mental, we responded almost at the same time.

One more suggestion - could it be that a game between 2 good players would go on without an end? Maybe a time limit should be added - set up a timer (if you want that) at the beginning of a match.

We have no total time limit, but it's possible to set a turn limit, which is currently disabled for the official servers (but will get changed soon). Though a match could drag on forever, from our playtesting over the last months we concluded that even between almost equal players games are pretty much decided in 12 - 20 turns. If that assumption proves false and matches really take too long, we'll think of something.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby Wrannie on 06 Dec 2008, 19:28

Alright, next wish - rejoin option
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Re: First Impressions

Postby GODhack on 06 Dec 2008, 19:40

I will post my first impressions here too.
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Nice game, but after two times I found few things bugs/lack of features.
1) It is not very clear when it is my and then other player turn. Game needs to show clearly that it is other player turn.
2) Random luck battles are not very fun, Heroes 3 style battles would be perfect.
3) maybe more complicated economy at least what to build selection. Random builds do not allow deep strategies. Just "rush with all you have"
4)maybe only in my fist map but game has little too many cities.
4)more game modes. 2vs2 3vs3 defend capital etc.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby void on 06 Dec 2008, 20:12

Hey GODhack, thanks for the feedback!

GODhack wrote:1) It is not very clear when it is my and then other player turn. Game needs to show clearly that it is other player turn.

Conquest is simultaneous turn-based, you give orders at the same time as the other players. When all players have pressed turn, actions get processed on the server.

2) Random luck battles are not very fun, Heroes 3 style battles would be perfect.

Though battles have random rolls and no visible tactical combat, when playing more you'll notice there is not much luck involved: It's mainly about predicting the enemy moves and dispatching the best unit combinations to dominate the battles.

3) maybe more complicated economy at least what to build selection. Random builds do not allow deep strategies. Just "rush with all you have"

On high level making the right moves is far from trivial, to keep turn speed reasonable (between 2 and 4 minutes) we simplified the production concept. Note that production involves zero randomness, each city has its own queue for each unit type; the closer a city is to the center of your empire, the faster it produces.

4)maybe only in my fist map but game has little too many cities.

Maps are randomly generated and you can adjust the civilization level on the server. The official servers go with civilization level "Moderate".

4)more game modes. 2vs2 3vs3 defend capital etc.

Alliances / teams are definitely missing and will get added in the future.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby SephiRok on 07 Dec 2008, 12:23

Wrannie wrote:Game froze on me on several occasions, lines got drawn but I couldn't move. First time I couldn't go on at all, restarted and then it happened again, only this time it would get going normally after some time. My connection seemed alright, not sure if the problem is on my end.

We found this bug and will fix it asap.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby Wrannie on 07 Dec 2008, 16:22

Happened every second game to someone I played against, seems that something happens between "victory" and next map generation.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby void on 07 Dec 2008, 17:05

Yeah it's fixed, new version will come up in the next hour.
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Re: First Impressions

Postby Karla on 15 Dec 2008, 15:19

You already know what bothers me most, but ill just name it once again.

Less...operations...spam....like..it...used....to...be. =|
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kawaii da XFCE :D
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Re: First Impressions

Postby SephiRok on 16 Dec 2008, 21:43

Holy Veil spam!
– Rok 足

Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.
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